The released documents also show that a cabinet with the PVV was quickly no longer an option. “PVV: tie off”, it says. Which is a term in The Hague for rounding off. However, the scouts still wanted to hear from Rutte and Kaag whether they really wanted to exclude the PVV or whether there was still an option. A whole list of questions had been prepared for this, such as: “Why do you actually exclude PVV?” And “Can the position on exclusion change?”
Considerable part of the House of Representatives extremely fiercely and is considering giving up confidence in Prime Minister |
Explorers Kajsa Ollongren and Annemarie Jorritsma have given openness to their talks before the reconnaissance for a new cabinet failed.
The revelation is explosive because Rutte said earlier that he “in any case had not mentioned Pieter Omtzigt”. Various opposition parties argue that the VVD leader has a confidence problem. “Rutte lied, that’s not nothing,” said SP leader Lilian Marijnissen. “This is why people hate politics.” Think party leader Farid Azarkan announces a motion of no confidence in the debate: “Rutte just lied. If Rutte is honest, he will leave. ” PVV leader Geert Wilders also wants that: ,, Rutte was the one and he lied about it. Get out.” Coalition leaders Wopke Hoekstra (CDA) and Sigrid Kaag (D66) are also fierce: “You cannot remove shamed trust with one comment. Is it possible to repair the heavy damage? ” With this, D66 seems to keep the option open to support a motion of no confidence later.
But CDA leader Wopke Hoekstra leaned back and held the cards to his chest, according to the memos. Hoekstra puts the ball at VVD and D66 and emphasizes time and again that coalition participation cannot be taken for granted: ,, I do not think it is obvious to participate. At one point our potential was just as great as VVD, what’s left of it: 15 meager seats. I was also not approached by Mark or Sigrid, my assessment is that there have been other contacts. I’m not going to be tempted by all kinds of variants. I have hesitations as to how your process began. It’s up to VVD-D66 to start pim-pam hats now. ”
D66 leader Sigrid Kaag wants to form “from the content”, but did comment in the Stadhouderskamer on preferential coalitions. The notes of ex-scout Ollongren show that Kaag wants a coalition with five parties, with besides VVD and the CDA also PvdA and GroenLinks – “as progressive as possible”. CU is not a first option, Kaag outlined, mainly due to the medical-ethical issues: “We are not going to delay for another four years.”
The formation of a new government has degenerated into total chaos due to the blunder with a secret memo last week: Kajsa Ollongren (D66) and Annemarie Jorritsma (VVD) stepped up as scouts, yesterday they already shared some secret reports with parliament, this morning at the request of the House of Representatives, a further dozen pages were published, partly handwritten, by scouts and officials.
These notes show that Rutte was upset with a reluctant CDA. In Rutte’s conversation with the scouts, the prime minister states that he hopes the party will “recover”: “You probably need them. It gets very complicated without the CDA. More time may be needed. If Wopke has more votes than Omtzigt, that will help. ” Then follows the sentence: “You have to make something with Omtzigt: minister.”
Incidentally, this is stated in the typed text of the conversation with Rutte. It is slightly different in the handwritten original. It says “CDA: you have to do something with Omtzigt: minister”.
According to Rutte, he would “not attract” a cabinet with PvdA and GroenLinks. Why that left cloud? You don’t need them both for a majority next to the CDA.
Former scouts Ollongren and Jorritsma also have something to explain: “position elsewhere” would “in no way have been discussed with the party leaders,” they wrote to the House of Representatives through the successors.
The formation of a new government has degenerated into total chaos due to the blunder with a secret memo last week: Kajsa Ollongren (D66) and Annemarie Jorritsma (VVD) stepped up as scouts, yesterday they already shared some secret reports with parliament, this morning At the request of the House of Representatives, dozens more pages were published, partly handwritten, by scouts and civil servants.
These notes show that Rutte was upset with a reluctant CDA. In Rutte’s conversation with the scouts, the prime minister states that he hopes the party will “recover”: “You probably need them. It gets very complicated without the CDA. More time may be needed. If Wopke has more votes than Omtzigt, that will help. ” Then follows the sentence: “You have to make something with Omtzigt: minister.”
Incidentally, this is stated in the typed text of the conversation with Rutte. In the handwritten original it is slightly different. It says “CDA: you have to do something with Omtzigt: minister”.
According to Rutte, he would “not attract” a cabinet with PvdA and GroenLinks. Why that left cloud? You don’t need them both for a majority next to the CDA. ”
But CDA leader Wopke Hoekstra leaned back and held the cards to his chest, according to the memos. Hoekstra puts the ball at VVD and D66 and emphasizes time and again that coalition participation cannot be taken for granted: ,, I do not think it is obvious to participate. At one point, our potential was just as great as VVD, what’s left of it: 15 meager seats. I was also not approached by Mark or Sigrid, my assessment is that there have been other contacts. I am not going to be tempted by all kinds of variants. I have hesitations as to how your process began. It’s up to VVD-D66 to start pim-pam hats now. ”
Other parties and the scouts are struggling with the CDA: how can the Christian Democrats still get on board? And do they have everything in order internally? Explorer Annemarie Jorritsma notes: “the most realistic is the opposition”. Anyone who reads other pre-formation documents about the CDA also thinks: what was Wopke Hoekstra actually doing in that Stadhouderskamer? In all major themes – migration, climate, economy – the CDA box remained remarkably empty, while other parties did anticipate their wishes and plans.
VVD leader Rutte still states that he would prefer to continue with the ChristenUnie, but if it comes to the left-wing parties, then “sooner” with the SP than the Pvda-GroenLinks combination, “unless they are willing to let go of each other”. “If they don’t hold on to each other, then a slight preference for PvdA, because concern about GL together with D66: a lot of climate”. He also said: ,, PvdA also exciting: if they really want to then fine, but if they go with long teeth, then less enthusiastic. 42 mid (billion, ed.) Increasing the burden on the business community is far too much. ”
Incidentally, the PvdA interview report shows that PvdA did not intend to enter the cabinet without GroenLinks or SP. Lilianne Ploumen noted: “A VVD-D66-PvdA coalition cannot be without another left-wing party (D66 is not a left-wing party).” SOURCES GOOGLE & AD.NL